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Offline Charles Smitheman

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Curare ARTF
« on: 28, October 2013, 08:15:17 AM »
Hello Folks,
Has anyone here succumbed to this latest nostalgic temptation? If so how about some feedback please. What gear used etc. Yes I have read the available reviews. There seems to be nothing much other than first flight impressions.
I wonder about servo choice, and the elevator linkage in particular.
And experience with the retracts that are recommended. as compared to my alternative choice of some Rohmairs.
I plan to go electric.
Regards,
Charles

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #1 on: 28, October 2013, 01:35:47 PM »
Tempting, even if a bit pricey. Only recently avail in the UK directly, previously had to be imported from Germany.
But it's an icon after all!
I use Spring-air's in my Dirty Birdy (full trike set), but Rhom's in good nick are also very good. Still not sure about the cheaper elec units though.

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #2 on: 28, October 2013, 03:08:15 PM »
Hello Bill,
Cheap compared to the time it would take me to build it!
It's all about buying the toys that were unaffordable back then.
And how does it compare in flight to the modern models. There is only one way to find out.
As far as servos go, what have you used in your DB?
Charles

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #3 on: 28, October 2013, 05:26:34 PM »
Just what I had in my box of s/h servos.................. ;)
All analogue but still much better than was available in the day. All set up for best resolution/least slop of course.
If it's anything like my DB (same "ballistic" era), then needs to be flown fast & smooth. The DB draws great lines & huge looping manoeuvres. Slooooowwwwwwwww rolls are a delight but use a LOT of sky! :D They fly in pretty much the opposite style to modern F3A, though a lightweight Curare etc should still fly reasonable Turnaround schedules. And the Curare had a reputation for great knife-edge in the day. (but again, nothing like even an Angel 50, which I also fly).

Bill

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #4 on: 28, October 2013, 06:03:23 PM »
Go on Charles - you know you want one! 


See if you can get hold of the September QEFI in which Tony Van Geffen reviewed the Curare.  It came with a LiPolice motor 510 KV, an 80 Amp OPTO ESC and 3 retracts (Lander electric tricycle AN 91792).  He used 5 Savox SC-0252MG servos.  Went like a bomb apparently and only used 40% of his 6S 4500 LiPo for a 10 min flight.


Then let us know what you think!


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Offline Charles Smitheman

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #5 on: 29, October 2013, 08:13:46 AM »
http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=44903

Thanks Peter,
This review is attached at the bottom of the page linked above.

As my son Andrew said last night: there goes the inheritance. I await a big box now. :)

Bill, I will be comparing it to my Angel 50, and yes, it would be doing well if it could match the Angel for knife edge. I think in 20 years time the Angel 50 will be regarded as a classic too. Incidentally I have standard Spektrum digital servos in the Angel, and it flies faultlessly. My reason for asking about servos is due to my experience with the Wind 110, this model was transformed by fitting a Futaba BLS rudder servo instead of the run of the mill digital one. The tracking of the model improved dramatically. So I "don't want to spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar" however I do have quite short arms.

If you are interested I will keep you posted.

Charles




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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #6 on: 29, October 2013, 08:23:05 AM »
See http://www.gbrcaa.org/Photo/main.php?g2_itemId=14367
 
I accused Dave of going for the 40 size when we met at the Championships but it was the full blown version.
 
My impression: Small, fast, covered a huge footprint and brought back some good memories in the development of F3A.
 
Enjoy.
 
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Offline Charles Smitheman

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #7 on: 31, October 2013, 12:21:23 PM »
Thanks for that Ashley.
My new toy has arrived, and it looks very nice.
Question: Where can I buy air tubing for use with the Rhomairs?
Charles

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #8 on: 31, October 2013, 01:01:03 PM »
Inwoods were always good for retract accessories, Id give them a try!

Got a nice winter build on the cards for myself and Mr Bond too, a pair of Upset II's if yoo will. See some of you on the classic pattern scene soonies..........

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #9 on: 31, October 2013, 04:32:32 PM »
Dusted off my Magic and undecided what engine to fit as I have a Brand New OS 61RF ABC-P or a Brand new Redshift RE to fit.
 
I have also discovered in my Mums Loft an Original Dave Hardaker Lightening kit intended for Redshift 60042
 
What do you reckon I should do  Ashley? ( I think I know the answer )
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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #10 on: 31, October 2013, 06:21:58 PM »
Buy an electric motor Sam.
 
Bet you never thought you would hear me say that.
 
Ashley

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #11 on: 01, November 2013, 06:05:00 AM »
Why not have a fly at the Retro Nats next September? You have a great selection of models, it seems a shame not to use them. :D

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #12 on: 01, November 2013, 10:14:38 PM »
Is that the one at Sleep aerodrome Nigel? I did make it there once there was quite a good turn out, I have a Tornado and a Gangster 63 also Curare plans a few copies if anyone wants one. I also obtained a set of Superstar plans and had a set of wings made but they are a bit heavy so not sure whether to use them or build a set, I also have a new un run  HP 61 gold head rear induction to go in it if it will fit.

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #13 on: 04, November 2013, 03:16:17 PM »
Hi Charles,I have decided to give the Curare a try myself and ordered the kit today so maybe we can compare notes.
Have you started the build yet?I will be interested how you get on. Regards Joe.

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Re: Curare ARTF
« Reply #14 on: 04, November 2013, 04:52:04 PM »
Not sure of the location of the Retro Nats. There looks to be a lot of information on the RCM&E forum. The best person to talk to is Steve Dunning.