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Title: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 16, July 2007, 10:21:31 PM
Hi all,
Don't forget your Nats entry has to be received by the BMFA by 6th August - so stop thinking about it & get your entry in. The summer is due to start in late August & its going to be a great Nats  - we deserve it!
Format will be:- All classes will be flown. FAI will be P0 for all the comp. This year I intend to maximise all the available time & flying will be continuous  - Saturday -9.00-6.00, Sunday 8.00 -6.00, Monday 8.00 - 4.00 pm. (subject to any BMFA restrictions)
A "scribe list" will be produced  -as last year. This will require all competitors to either scribe/line control or score for a short period after they have flown. If you are flying calling for anyone, please PM me & I will try to separate you in the flight order.As ever, we will need volunteer judges (who will be exempt scribing)  - so please contact the chief judge, Bob Ailles. If you are going to be there & not flying & would like to help in some way, please let me know.
more later

Stuart
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: clintonsmith89 on 24, July 2007, 12:52:44 AM
i can't remember! do we have to send both a gbrcaa and bmfa one off to the bmfa ?

clint
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Ashley Hoyland on 24, July 2007, 08:46:34 AM
Hi Clinton .... and all pilots who are thinking about entering.  Please enter as soon as possible, time is short, send your entry off today.

The only requirement to enter the Nationals is to follow the instructions in the BMFA News.

The BMFA will then contact Stuart with entries and update him at intervals.  It is not usually until the last minute that we know who will be entering, so it is difficult to do the final planning until the BMFA have processed all the entries and passed them onto Stuart.

It would be good if we could find an independent and reliable way of knowing who has entered as soon as pilots send off their entries but we have not found a way of doing that so far.

I have replied to this, as I know Stuart would not be able to reply for a few days.

Regards

Ashley
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Matt Hoyland on 06, August 2007, 04:40:20 PM
Pre-entry has been extended to the 10th August 2007, this Friday, so you still have time to get your entries in!

I also understand late entries will be accepted on the Saturday morning, double entries fees will not be due.
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: clintonsmith89 on 07, August 2007, 01:28:16 AM
The weather best hold out for the nats,
ive had nothing but rain and strong winds down here, but hay strong winds is what its all about  :), especially when its cross.

lets hope the sun shines and all goes well.

does any one know if they will be letting campers in on the friday?
clint
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Ashley Hoyland on 07, August 2007, 08:15:04 AM
Hello Clinton

The Official line is that the camp site gate will be open from 5.30 on the Friday (Nationals Camp Site Notes)  In practice many arrive before then and are held in a waiting area to get vehicles off the roads, which is a bit of a problem if too many arrive early.  There is no where to go but have a chat and wait.

As soon as full size flying finishes and the aircraft are hangared we are allowed on the airfield.  When we are given the OK the scene is how you would imagine the early settlers in the New World to look when they were off across the plains with the Indians in hot pursuit.  I have been on at 4.00, 5.10, 4.30 and last year I think we were lucky when the airfield was handed over early on the Friday, so it varies, and we will not know until the last minute unless we see something on the BMFA web site. Understandably the organisers want to discourage too many turning up early and blocking roads.

TX check-in is usually open from about 7.00pm on Friday, but again that depends what time the airfield is handed over.

We usually meet on the F3A flightline to set it up as soon as we have got established on the camp site.

I hope this helps and enjoy your Nationals.

Ashley

Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: clintonsmith89 on 08, August 2007, 03:01:32 AM
cheers ashley, its gonna be a good one i can feel it in my bones !

clint
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Malcolm Balfour on 13, August 2007, 05:20:28 PM
Any chance  we could get a list of the pilots competing?

Looking forward to seeing everyone

Malc
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 13, August 2007, 05:27:52 PM
Hi Malcolm,
Have not received only 1 Scottish entry (from Steven Currie). Have you sent it? I know there are a few still outstanding.

Yes, will post full list  - if I get chance to complete it in time!

regrds
stuart
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Malcolm Balfour on 13, August 2007, 09:03:52 PM
Hi stuart

posted entries quite a while ago surprised you haven't received them.

The entries were for me and David.

Malc
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Malcolm Balfour on 13, August 2007, 09:25:49 PM
Hi Stuart

Just phoned back to the parents house and all the camping passes etc have come through today for both David and myself.

Presumably the BMFA will update you soon

Best wishes

Malc
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 14, August 2007, 06:59:42 PM
Hi Malcolm - will check with BMFA tomorrow re your entries. In the meantime - what frequencies are you & David using? Need to sort out the order asap.
regrds
Stuart
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Keith Jackson on 15, August 2007, 10:45:21 AM
Hi Stuart,

Have you any idea of the running order for Saturday? I ask as I might have to travel up on Saturday morning and do the radio check then so might be late arriving.

Whos in the line up?

Keith
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Malcolm Balfour on 15, August 2007, 08:03:49 PM
Hi Stuart

David and I are both using 67.

Malc
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Ashley Hoyland on 16, August 2007, 09:50:03 AM
Hi All

Does anyone have access to a PA system with radio mic that we can use on our flight line at the Nats to talk to visitors.

Please be assured this in no way involves pilots being interviewed, it is just a way of trying to give more information to our visitors about what we are doing.  If all goes to plan we will have an invitation given out at the gate to come and talk to us and we will have leaflets to give out, this is just another way of involving those who visit us.

Regards

Ashley

We may have an offer, but we need to check if there is a radio mic available.  If anyone has any other thoughts on the subject please PM me.

Ashley

Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Richard Hirst on 16, August 2007, 03:47:21 PM
Hi.

Does anybody know the the times for the TX testing on Saturday Morning..?

Thanks

Richard.
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Ashley Hoyland on 16, August 2007, 04:14:48 PM
Hi Richard

Friday 5.00pm to 8.00pm

Saturday 7.00am to 9.00am and 6.00pm to 6.30pm

Sunday 7.30am to 8.00am.

F3A frequencies 59, 63, 65, 67 only + 2.4 GHZ

Standard 3" x 2" frequency flags must be used - no ribbons.

Early morning access for Tx check will be through the day gate.

Hope this is helpful.

Regards

Ashley
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Keith Jackson on 16, August 2007, 06:26:39 PM
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the info.

See you Saturday morning

Keith
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: clintonsmith89 on 17, August 2007, 01:12:26 PM
Hi stuart
dont suppose u could let in on how many people are flying in advanced ?

cheers

clint
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 17, August 2007, 03:20:56 PM
Hi Clint & all,
All Nats entrants listed below - subject to change & NOT in flight order (apart from Intermediate)
FAI group A fly 1st, then Masters, Advanced, Inter, Clubman & Group B FAI

FAI Group A -  Steven Currie  65, Malcolm Balfour 67, Matthew Hoyland 63,
Sam Wragg    65, David Balfour 67, Arthur Silsby 65, Garry Peacock 67

Masters - Tom Bootyman 59, Ashley Hoyland 65
   
Advanced  - Clinton Smith 67,  Peter Scoles 65, Steve Dunning 63, Alan Connelly 65,
Robbie Meek 59, Mike Binnersley 63,

Intermediate -  James Stephens 63
   
Clubman - Robert Rowland 65, Gavin Garlick 59

FAI Group B - Andrew Waterhouse 63, Keith Jackson 65, Brian Hoare 59, John Harrop 65, Robert Wasson 63, Brandon Ransley 65, Ken Moss 65, Richard Hirst 63,
Richard Christopher 65

regrds
Stuart
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: clintonsmith89 on 18, August 2007, 02:09:55 AM
cheers stuart

aslong as we all pray for good weather, it should go brill !

clint
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 18, August 2007, 08:23:20 PM
Hi Richard, Brandon & all,
Yes I'm well aware of implications of splitting FAI fliers ito groups. Whatever a CD does at the Nats upsets someone!
The reasons for this are several:
Firstly to give the FAI judges a decent break (as the Chief Judge asked for). I agree with Bob that asking the same judges to judge 16 flights in a row won't produce better results than giving them a decent break & then sitting down again refreshed. The alternative would require more short breaks & make the round longer  -something we can't afford to do time wise. I want to minimise "breaks" & keep flying to 6.00 pm. I want to start round 3 on Saturday if possible. This will provide a rotation in FAI & hopefully weather conditions will be averaged out  - if we achieve sufficient flights. If it rains & we don't complete 2 rounds on Saturday, then some classes will be flying on different days in the same round anyway.
The only way we will all be happy is for 3 days of fine weather & light winds & its not happened yet!
regrds Stuart

Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: brandon ransley on 19, August 2007, 03:19:21 AM
oh dear!
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 20, August 2007, 11:07:41 PM
Malcolm & David,

Nae problem,  I've put you in the same group.

regrds
Stuart
ps - will take my own poles this year
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 20, August 2007, 11:34:05 PM
Hi all,
Flight order will be available Friday evening. A copy will be available in the tent or, please ring my mobile number after 6.00 pm (number on info leaflet sent out to all competitors)
Order will be:
Group A FAI
Masters, Intermediate, Clubman
Group B FAI
Advanced.
This will ensure that the FAI judges can judge each FAI group with no stoppages & have a substantial break whilst flier-judges judge other classes. Along with flying until 6.00 pm & starting round 3 on Saturday (if weather permits) this should ensure that we achieve the maximum number of flights possible - above all, what competitors really want at the Nationals.

best regards
Stuart
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Malcolm Balfour on 22, August 2007, 09:56:47 PM
Weather looks awesome for the weekend 8)

Should be a cracking comp

Malc
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Yoda on 22, August 2007, 10:27:00 PM
Be mindful of your teachings young padawan. Ready you are.
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Barry Macleod on 23, August 2007, 10:33:15 AM
you pure bloods crack me up :-* Good LUCK brothers :-*
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Yoda on 23, August 2007, 11:24:51 AM
Amen to that pilgrim!

Best of luck to all competitors but especially the Scots in the form of Malcolm, David and the two Currie brothers. I hear another pilot is getting choppered in 1 min after pilots briefing starts. Rumour has it he flys Oxalys with a brand spanking new 170 and eats lipos for breakfast.
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Andy Prime on 23, August 2007, 07:25:06 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: brandon ransley on 27, August 2007, 08:19:55 PM
Great Nats - well done Stuart and team

Six rounds

No rain - windy though

Very close between Keith and Richard in FAI with Rich coming out on top by 30 points out of 4000 - that is 0.75% - less than 1 %!!! Very tight and excitibg up until the last round!

B
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: David Balfour on 27, August 2007, 09:03:32 PM
yes. thanks stuart and to all involved. A memorable Nats. I think most people really enjoyed it! ;) Hopefully make the champs this year.... if not thats the end of the competitive season already for me. So i'll be seeing you all soon i'm sure
Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Matt Hoyland on 28, August 2007, 11:39:34 AM
Well done Stuart, great competition!  All results below.
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Matt Hoyland on 28, August 2007, 11:41:22 AM
Clubman
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Brian Hoare on 28, August 2007, 03:54:25 PM
Stuart


Another successful Nationals

Many thanks and a big well done.

PS thank you all that contributed to the running of the weekend and to Ashley for his excellent work at promoting our association

Brian
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Richard Hirst on 28, August 2007, 09:44:17 PM
Many thanks Stuart and team.

Excellent weekend.

Congratulations to Richard C.


Richard & Claire.

PS Ashley I have some Photos for you to use, please let me know an email address to send them.
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Ashley Hoyland on 28, August 2007, 10:02:43 PM
Hi Richard

If you send them to Matt at  news@gbrcaa.org  he will deal with them.

Regards

Ashley 
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Matt Hoyland on 29, August 2007, 06:49:48 PM
Pics from the Nats are now on the website.

http://www.gbrcaa.org/Gallery_Files/gallery.htm (http://www.gbrcaa.org/Gallery_Files/gallery.htm)
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 30, August 2007, 07:13:53 PM
Hi all
Thanks all for favourable comments - I just wish we had more than 1 line, then there would be more flights.
Incidentally - heard from the top - Barkston is "safe" for the next 10 years i.e. safe  as a 'drome - although that does not mean the BMFA will automatically have use of it. But it's still good news in changing times.

regards
Stuart
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Stuart Mellor on 30, August 2007, 07:28:52 PM
Hi all,
Just a separate big thankyou for all those that helped at the Nats - the long suffering judges Bob & Alan & Stuart for all the hours they sat there.(& the flier judges also)
To Marion  -who scored single handedly on Sunday.
To Emma & Kath who scored on Saturday & Monday - re inputting loads of scores.
To Trevor - who I know suffered in the Sun controlling the line on Saturday.
To Ashley, who dug a trench between the flightline, tent & PR duties.
To the scribes - as ever few in number.
To Brandon, Keith & Clinton & Mike - for the lunch time demos.
& everyone else for a memorable Nationals.

Thanks to you all
Stuart
Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Mike Wood on 01, September 2007, 11:07:15 AM
Attending as a spectator it was a great Nats blessed with fantastic weather and supported
by a dedicated team as mentioned above.

I'd just like to add that I thought our advertising piece in the Nationals 2007 Programme
given out everyone at the gate on entry to the Nats was excellent and thought it was the
best of all the columns for the individual disciplines.

With three pictures showing one of the youngest fliers through to one of our more senior
and a tag line of "F3A Precision Aerobatics for All", together with minimal but bold text
simply saying "we have five schedules to suit the club flier through to the international standard required for FAI competition."
got the message across without reams of text and without any dumbing down of our sport.

Thanks to Ashley and Matt on that one.

Mike



Title: Re: Nats 2007
Post by: Malcolm Balfour on 02, September 2007, 06:21:01 PM
Yip thanks for a good weekend everyone.

Hopefully see you all next year.

Malc