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[Alan Simmonds]

This is the PowerPoint presentation used by Bob Romijn at our judging seminar earlier this year.

Download: F3A Judging Seminar

Who should read? All F3A pilots and judges looking to improve their results!

[Stuart Mellor]

Thanks Alan,
Superb presentation by Bob at the judging seminar. Not without its controversy though (which was good in itself)

Just to kick things off! - I would still give a zero for the spins in slide 30. The entire manoeuvre is outside the box - not 60%.

Stuart

[Alan Simmonds]

Stuart

I'm with you on that one.
The spin entry and the 1/4 loop are entirely outside the box.

Alan

[Stuart Mellor]

Alan - I completely 'misjudged ' you. Spent a needless 10 minutes reinforcing my case! I like these open forum discussions though -if they expose weaknesses in the rules.

As you know, in the SC it does state that the entry & exit  before & after are indeed judged as part of a manoeuvre - but only if some elements of the manoeuvre are in the box. (my interpretation)
Where all the manoeuvre elements are outside the box - there is nothing to mark -so any entry & exits although they maybe inside the box, count for nothing.

A similar analogy might be, say, on a centre manoeuvre -say a full snap. The pilot does an excellent entry, excellent exit  - but forgets the snap. Again the entry & exit count for nothing, because there's nothing to mark.

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Stuart

[Alan Simmonds]

Stuart

I think it was a no-brainer (and probably a mistake), but nevertheless, I'm happy to be unpredictable 

Alan