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F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« on: 31, August 2018, 11:22:16 am »
As required an advert should appear in the next issue of our BMFA News for a Team Manager for this event.

The dates are 1st to 11th August 2019 and the venue is Calcinatello di Calcinato, Italy.

Ashley
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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #1 on: 31, January 2019, 03:02:03 am »
I am pleased to be able to keep everyone up to date now that our GBR Team for 2019 has been ratified by the BMFA.

Team Manager: Ashley Hoyland.   Pilots: Matt Hoyland, Kevin Caton, Garry Peacock.

The Official web site is here:  www.acame.it/campionato-mondo-f3a/cm-f3a.html#spot 

If anyone travelling to this Championship wishes to be registered as an official Supporter or Helper please let me know.  The cost is 80 Euros plus 50 Euros for the banquet.

Ashley
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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #2 on: 03, June 2019, 11:04:05 am »

I am sorry that I have to inform members that our Team for the World Championship is reduced to two pilots Matt and Kevin.


There was some hope that we may be able to fill the third place, but at this late stage it has not been possible and therefore the BMFA have instructed me as Team Manager to go ahead and prepare the organisation for a two man team.




Ashley

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #3 on: 13, June 2019, 08:17:45 pm »
Following on from these discussions /proposals I have spoken to the BMFA today on a way forward on current & future team selection procedures.
Cutting to the chase:

1. There is no chance of our sending a 3rd F3-A team member this year. Names of team members are submitted to the BMFA Comp. Secretary (Jo Halman) for approval by the BMFA full Council meeting, always in January of a current year of the relevant championships. (this year - 12th Jan). Once names are approved by the council, these would be the only 3 names eligible within a team entry, regardless of our (or other specialist bodies) methods of team selection. i.e if any team member withdraws, no substitution is allowed. In any case, authority of such matters is delegated to Jo Halman - who, should she decide otherwise, could  only get approval at the next full council meeting. Also, there is precedent whereby the drone racing team were not allowed to send a replacement under very similar circumstances and much quoted by BMFA officials, probably in defense of their procedures.

So what can we now do?

1. Firstly, we must modify our own rules that allow us to send a substitute pilot, should our team selection procedure be exhausted - as has happened this year. Without that it would be pointless trying to argue a case with the BMFA when our own rules don’t allow that - or are not sufficiently clear.

Any rule change has to be in place in our rule book in time for the next Technical Council meeting on October 19 2019 for their approval. Thus any I.P meeting has to take place at the beginning of October 2019 at the latest.

The Technical council meeting are allowed to submit proposals to a full council meeting. Thus we could submit a proposal in relation to changing/ modifying BMFA rules. Such a proposal would have to be submitted to the Technical council by our own representative -Ashley Hoyland - with an agendad proposal.....
Proposals can also be made directly to the full council by their existing members, bye- passing or adding to any Technical council proposals. (should we wish to lobby individuals)


I’m convinced many BMFA officials are blissfully unaware of the problems associated with current team selection methods. I can only blame ourselves for that or our representitives at BMFA level........
I doubt if they are aware that, given the realistic situation that we are unlikely to win a W/C or European event in the near future - with a 2 man team - we will automatically finish near the bottom of the team event, probably just above the sole entrant from Usbeckistan(?). In other words - why are we bothering without a team of 3?

Conclusions:

1.We need to alter our rules before the October 19th Technical Council meeting.
2.Our rule book to be approved by the above meeting.
3. Any proposal for BMFA rule amendments need to be approved at that meeting for submission to the full council meeting in January 2020.
What can you do?
Write to the BMFA asap expressing your disquiet at current team arrangements. The more letters, the better. E mail if you must   - but letters, copied to individuals would be better.
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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #4 on: 14, June 2019, 12:19:54 am »

I am pleased Stuart and Adrian have questioned the position in which we find ourselves.
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I want to assure all members that the procedures open to us have been followed each year since I have been on our committee and the GBRCAA Representative to the BMFA Technical Council and the GBR F3A Team Manager.  It took me three years to bring the GBRCAA rules and BMFA Contest Rules up to date when I started and then amend these each year in accordance with the results of our Interested Parties Meeting and our AGM.  It takes a lot of effort and time get the information to the BMFA on behalf of the GBRCAA, but I have never missed a deadline.
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There have been two occasions in the past where I have been able to get acceptance for a replacement for a team member who has had to withdraw, but never this late in the proceedings.  Early on in the year I received agreement for the 6th pilot in our league to be accepted as our third team member, but when I was put in the position of trying to get another pilot ratified, which I did on this occasion due to deadlines, (although I have been criticised in the past for taking this initiative), I was not hopeful and disappointed that we would not be able to have a full team at this championship.
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It is pointless trying to make rules which will not be accepted by the BMFA.  I understand the procedures and consequences and I can only ask that you leave it to our Committee and the Interested Parties Meeting to negotiate our future.
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Ashley
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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #5 on: 25, July 2019, 06:32:08 am »

Just to keep everyone up to date.  All the final arrangements have been made and we should all arrive at the competition site on Thursday 1at August by which time I should have registered our team with the officials.


Now the photo gallery is up and running again I hope to keep everyone up to date with our progress.


Ashley

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #6 on: 01, August 2019, 05:01:06 pm »
Good luck to our team! Hope all the hard preparation is paying off and you are having a great competition!
Best wishes to you all,
Gerhard

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #7 on: 01, August 2019, 07:25:23 pm »
Thank you Gerhard and everyone for their good wishes.

I am pleased to say I have managed to upload some photographs here:  http://www.gbrcaa.org/gallery/index.php?/category/302http://www.gbrcaa.org/gallery/index.php?/category/302

I registered the team today but was caught out due to the organisers wanting more information than normal, but I hope to complete the process tomorrow before our processing and official practice.

More later.

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #8 on: 02, August 2019, 08:27:44 am »
Thanks for posting the pictures Ashley, an interesting selection of airframes.


Good luck to the team, have a great competition.


Mark

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #9 on: 02, August 2019, 08:35:41 am »
Well done Ashley, team GB have arrived safely. You can almost relax and enjoy being with the family that is F3a, or as much as a TM can. Hope you have had no dramas arriving, I have been reading Mark Atwood's (Team USA) blog and he was still trying to track down the teams batteries, yesterday. Most all other teams seem to have arrived and are now busy with the last few practices and adjusting to the climate.
Hope you all have a great competition and surpass your own goals, wish I was there, :'(

Please keep writing the  daily blog  and it will feel like I am. Good luck and enjoy.

Go team GB

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #10 on: 02, August 2019, 01:21:49 pm »
Thank you Eugene and Mark

We have just got through registration, model processing and noise checks.

Models had to be put in cars to drive to official practice on flight line ‘b’ 5 minutes away, which has a artificial grass runway.

All is going well and we have met most of the teams and renewed many acquaintances.  Just as you say Eugene just one big F3a family.  Kevin gone off to another practice site whilst Matt and I sort a few things.

Models performing well.  Very warm and sunny but with the occasional thermally wind and a bit of thunder in the distance.

I will post photographs shortly.

Cheers for now.

30 minutes later.  Sorry for delay with photos - camera in car - stuck in house with most violent thunder storm and heaviest rain we have seen since Tuesday eve at Woodchurch.

catch up soon.


It has stopped raining see photo gallery .
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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #11 on: 03, August 2019, 10:10:30 pm »
At the time of writing Ashley is probably still in the Team Managers’ Meeting, so I’ll try to give a quick update. We have completed processing and official practice so today we went to a practice site and a Matt and I had two flights each in nice conditions. The wind conveniently changed direction late morning so we got one flight in each direction.


The opening ceremony was held late afternoon with the usual parade of competitors and judges followed by some short speeches and a “cultural show” which I can best describe as flag juggling by people dressed in medieval outfits. It was every bit as skilful as F3A flying but we were getting a bit hot in the sun by the end. Then there was a buffet reception which gave everyone the chance to renew acquaintances.


Tomorrow I am scheduled to fly at 1040 and Matt will be first off in the afternoon at 1430, both on line B. I expect that the scores should be available on the competition website soon after the flights have been completed but the usual health warning will apply - we will see four 1/4 rounds tomorrow so you can’t read much into the scores at that stage. At least the weather is looking good.


As always, it’s a privilege to be here and thanks for all the messages of support we are getting from back home. The standard is very high and we will do our best!


More tomorrow.

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #12 on: 03, August 2019, 11:10:15 pm »
Kevin and Matt, very best of luck tomorrow, you're an hour ahead so 09:40 and 13:30 BST.

Best of luck to Javad who is also out there competing.

Best of luck Ashley with keeping everything running smoothly.

Mike

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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #13 on: 04, August 2019, 02:43:11 am »
All the best guys. With the time difference between where I am and where you are, your day will have all but finished when I get up ! ..... so hope it went well.


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Re: F3A World Championship - 2019 - Italy
« Reply #14 on: 04, August 2019, 04:32:34 pm »
http://fiam.ilpistone.com/wc19/


This should give you as much information as we are getting.


After Matt went to practice this morning, and took off as the church bells chimed 7am, we all arrived at the competition site ‘B’ ready for Kevin’s flight which was a 407 and Matt put in a 413. Life is tough!  It was good to see Javad's first flight in a World Championship.

I have not seen anything in Christoph’s flying that would suggest he can’t win.  Still a lot of flying to be done.

Good to see Andy Shutt here today.

I will try and update the photo gallery later.

Ashley
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